As usual, first a few pics for inspiration. Then, a description of a conversation with Geo RR Martin, author of the 'Song of Ice and Fire' series of novels. Four books are already published, #5 currently has over 1200 pages in draft form, and Mr Martin plans to write 2 final volumes of the saga. Here he describes how he keeps track of minutiae during the writing process of such an epic tale...
>April 16, 2010: C2E2 Q&A - Submitted By: maxlongstreet
One thing I found interesting that she didn't mention was GRRM's response to a question about how he keeps all the details straight as he writes more books.
GRRM responded that this was one of the things that was making Dance take so long, namely having to go back and check a bunch of details. He said that without search functions in documents he would have gone mad.
He gave a very funny rant about eye color - about how in the real world, we rarely notice anyone's eye color unless we're very close to them, but in books, everyone has their eye color described. Having to go back and check the eye color he gave for hundreds of characters was an example of a detail that could drive him batty; GRRM said he regretted mentioning the eye color of any of his characters. He also noted that as a brown-eyed person, he finds it annoying that brown-eyed characters are always portrayed as ordinary, while the doers of great deeds always have blue or hazel eyes or something - he notes that he himself was somewhat guilty of this with the violet eyes of Dany or the red eyes of Melisandre.
He said that in all seriousness, what was most important in rereading prior books to make sure he got the continuity right was speech patterns - each of his hundreds of characters has a distinct way of talking that he wants to make sure he is faithful to.
Another interesting thing he mentioned: he mentioned the coming of age of Arya in Braavos in the context of how a writer had to discipline himself to write only as many chapters as were necessary to serve the story, saying that what Arya was dealing with in Braavos could make a worthy young adult novel in its own right.
Another tidbit I liked (this I think from Friday night): that *while Tyrion was his favorite character and the most like himself, and for those reasons perhaps the easiest for him to write, these chapters have been harder in Dance because of the dark turn Tyrion's story has taken.
He talked about how in typical fantasy, a magician will throw lightning bolts and kill thousands of men, but in 'real' medieval times, more men died of disease than on the battlefield, due to the unsanitary conditions involved in keeping together a large army - to me, there was a hint that we may see some of this effect of disease in Dance.
In talking about his progress writing Dance, he mentioned that he is now writing the epilogue - this doesn't mean that he's finishing up; he was clear that he was writing this part out of order. As we've heard before, the he said that resolution of the Meereenese knot was the major thing left to complete in Dance.
In response to a question about whether it was hard to kill a character, he said that it always was, even if the character was an evil bastard. He said that the Red Wedding was the hardest thing he's ever written, and that he put off doing it until the rest of the book was complete.
The Friday night reading was the lengthy Jon Snow chapter that others have probably read before, but which I had disciplined myself not to view online. Martin does the voices of his characters very well - I liked Sam's squeaky, stuttering falsetto.
Finally, to me the most interesting thing he said publicly all weekend were some comments about the nature of writing and what he tries to do. He said that pure good-and-evil fantasy wasn't interesting to him; while Tolkien had done Sauron masterfully, he'd had a lot of bad imitators doing 'dark lord' villains. He noted that to him the most interesting characters in Lord of the Rings were the more flawed heroes, folks like Boromir and Denethor.
He made the point rather dramatically by saying that all fiction could be lumped into two types: Good guy punches bad guy in the nose, or the human heart struggles against itself. He said he was really only interested in writing the second kind of fiction. <
(*ricrar Note: Tyrion is the wise dwarf at the center of the Westeros universe. See a reader's observation below re Martin's personality & apparent identification with Tyrion.)
http://www.westeros.org/Citadel/SSM/Month/2010/04/
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Malta has been named as the location for some GoT scenes. Can't be certain, but according to what I've read so far, I'd say they probably will be Dothraki passages. Their homeland is exotic...filled with highly imaginative landscapes and creatures. Sites being considered...
http://www.filmmalta.com/location-scouting
4 comments:
Very interesting, so glad you posted this about GRRM and his characters. Loved the comments about people not noticing eye color in others as a rule, but I think we would all notice a certain man's blue eyes and long eyelashes! I love the second pic by the way, WOW!
I liked GRRM comments about villains and about writing characters that are complex. Interesting that he mentioned Boromir because of Sean Bean being cast as Lord Stark now. I think both Sean Bean and Richard Armitage are able to bring humanity to their roles as villains, or as complex human beings and flawed heroes who make us wonder, like Boromir, or Lucas North for example. (Of course, it doesn't hurt that both men are easy on the eyes- LOL). Now if only HBO would listen to us about RA!
Musa, did you also get the feeling early on in 'A game of Thrones' that the writer perceived himself to be Tyrion--the mental giant forced to deal with severe physical disparity?
His comments about the difficulty of killing off even the nastiest
'barsteward':) were interesting. Especially when he referred to the 'Red wedding'? Do I need to prepare myself for the demise of a major character in that passage? When it comes to fiction, spoilers are never a concern for me. If it's well written, those incidents only inspire me to read faster in order to devour all the delicious details.
Now, messing with historic facts is where my alarm bells & whistles bellow 'foul!' - not fictional plots:)
RiCAr I think you're right that GRRM identifies with Tyrion, he's said it's his favorite character. I love Tyrion also and I think through this character G is saying don't judge a man, or anyone, by what they look like on the outside. So he's made this character the most intelligent of all, and also the most witty. (Among other things).But of course, RA is an example that you can also have physical beauty, intelligence, and a great sense of humor.
The Red Wedding - brace yourself. In any of the books, don't get too attached to any major character. (I think George would have been a great writer for Spooks.) I wonder how they're going to film the Red Wedding, if HBO keeps the series going. It will be a difficult one to watch.
Musa, your description of the Red Wedding inspires me to get to Clash of Kings at warp speed;) It is in the 2nd book, right?
I agree w/the sentiment that Martin uses Tyrion as a 'don't judge a book by it's cover' admonition to readers. However, he probably fails to recognize that a stunning appearance such as Richard's can sometimes be a detriment in show business as well. IMO, the majority of show biz types regard anyone endowed w/great beauty as getting a free pass in their profession. They completely discount their talent and credit appearance as the sole reason for their popularity w/the public. Therefore, the actors themselves must deliver consistently brilliant performances for decades until their peers concede there's more to their stardom than that which meets the eye.
The only player in the decade-running series 'Friends,' to never receive an emmy for her performance, was the actress who played Monica. She's been recognized as a stunning beauty since first appearing as a teen in a Bruce Sprinsteen music video. Another famous actress, whose outstanding dramatic skills were ignored until she was at least 40yrs old, was Elizabeth Taylor.
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